tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5370884568160752646.post536489718210115368..comments2024-02-23T08:34:49.655-08:00Comments on My Tango Diaries: Altering the Conversation - A Follower's PerspectiveMarihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08960763038363579526noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5370884568160752646.post-37026793847324718542011-11-10T08:08:57.119-08:002011-11-10T08:08:57.119-08:00@Cherie
I think we have a failure to communicate,...@Cherie<br /><br />I think we have a failure to communicate, with your words holding a different meaning for you than for me. So I'll leave it that what you're saying doesn't make sense to me in the way that you're saying it.Ghostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5370884568160752646.post-26274898276532784622011-11-10T06:30:53.092-08:002011-11-10T06:30:53.092-08:00Ghost, since all steps in the traditional tango ar...Ghost, since all steps in the traditional tango are based on the walk and the change of weight from one foot to the other, when a couple is dancing with one body and one heartbeat, no matter what step is being led and followed--ochos, giros, sandwich, whatever--the weight is over one leg at a time. The weight is never evenly distributed between both legs, as in a tango pose, for example. In the giro that you mention, as you step back side front side, your weight is (or should be) over the side step, and then ready to transfer to the other leg for the back or front step. The giro is also walking, only in a circle.<br /><br />But I'm reminded of what Gavito used to say, "I don't do desk tango!" meaning he danced, he didn't write about it on the internet.<br /><br />I don't mind writing about this technical stuff on my own blog, but I feel a little uncomfortable about doing it on someone else's.tangocheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10012220622641996877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5370884568160752646.post-89700849007560446772011-11-10T03:38:26.572-08:002011-11-10T03:38:26.572-08:00@Cherie
I can't get my head around this, coul...@Cherie<br /><br />I can't get my head around this, could you explain it further please?<br /><br />"Enclosed in the tango embrace, the body is one--<i>not with four legs, but with two, as this body is only standing on two legs at any one time</i>."<br /><br />In order to walk, surely you need all four legs to be involved, like an animal does? And what of when the women is in the side-step of a giro and has her weight split?Ghostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5370884568160752646.post-14607142889438376252011-11-09T19:21:27.081-08:002011-11-09T19:21:27.081-08:00@Ghost - you're very welcome. There's more...@Ghost - you're very welcome. There's more coming.<br /><br />@Richard - gracias - thank you for reading my blog!<br /><br />@Mikko - I think you're on to something - actually several somethings. I can definitely see how that would happen when a leader is tense. he has to navigate as well as choreograph, and connect, and be musical, and breathe etc etc etc - that's rather a lot to think about!! The gentleman I referenced in my post, with the exceptionally strong embrace, is a teacher though and I'm told that's just his style. Weirdly, it does remove just about any chance that I'll miss a lead. ;-) Thank you so much for your comments.Marikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14195873941515232734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5370884568160752646.post-28137607723884280792011-11-09T19:17:39.933-08:002011-11-09T19:17:39.933-08:00Cherie - my response was too long, surprising, I k...Cherie - my response was too long, surprising, I know. ;) I'm going to post it as a blog entry instead. Sheesh this is getting to be a habit.Marikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14195873941515232734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5370884568160752646.post-6863299698759576602011-11-09T14:49:54.556-08:002011-11-09T14:49:54.556-08:00Really interesting post and one that obviously you...Really interesting post and one that obviously you have thought a lot about. <br /><br />Please don't take it as a negative when I say that the dancers of traditional tango milonguero here in BsAs don't feel that way.<br /><br />The idea of a conversation between two bodies is rather recent, and foreign. Enclosed in the tango embrace, the body is one--not with four legs, but with two, as this body is only standing on two legs at any one time. <br /><br />It's Ying/Yang--one whole from two parts that meld together and make something new.<br /><br />When I dance I don't feel the need to tap or to do rulos or raise my left shoulder in time to the music--I am completely within the music and at the command of my partner, and with his design of the dance, I can express myself and the music perfectly in his embrace without adding anything but elegant posture and good technique.<br /><br />It's not a struggle between two minds of how to dance this song, but a blending of souls. <br /><br />Well, that's the way I would describe it anyway.<br /><br />Besos,<br />cherietangocheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10012220622641996877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5370884568160752646.post-45073986184533009762011-11-09T04:33:13.434-08:002011-11-09T04:33:13.434-08:00Interesting, thanks!
As a leader, I have found th...Interesting, thanks!<br /><br />As a leader, I have found that the less confident I feel, the more I automatically and unconsciously block the movement of the follower.<br /><br />If the follower starts to interpret the music in a complex way "too early", it seems that I unconsciously start to feel that I cannot control the situation, which makes me tense in the arm and neck region, and the follower feels restricted, and will try to interpret the music even more.<br /><br />It is analogous to the situation that one should never start a tango with complicated movement. We need to build trust and confidence in each other by initial, simple movement.<br /><br />The more experienced leader I have become, the less this becomes an issue for me.<br /><br />I am not saying that this was the case here, certainly if he was not tense, it could have been just his personality or something like that.Mikkohttp://cerebrar.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5370884568160752646.post-20451065060278183912011-11-09T03:04:53.733-08:002011-11-09T03:04:53.733-08:00great articlegreat articleLitzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12652172167543016486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5370884568160752646.post-39280039428257512052011-11-08T13:31:55.843-08:002011-11-08T13:31:55.843-08:00Very cool, thanks :o)Very cool, thanks :o)Ghostnoreply@blogger.com